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SECTION 6D
MEETING YOUR FANTASY SOMEONE IN REAL LIFE
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Some Myths About Meeting People From The Net
Fetish Meetings: Special Risks
Defining Close Encounters
Meeting For Sex, Safe or Otherwise
Fetish Close Encounters of the Third Kind 

Ok... here's the real challenge to all you Internet fantasy enthusiasts.  Something cliques between you and your cyber-partner and you are thinking of meeting them.
How do you go about doing it... safely?


Well, while there are certain unique considerations to be given regarding meeting someone in real life for engaging in your sexual fantasies together (which we will discuss in detail later), there are some universal tips that can be followed in meeting anyone on the net for any reason.  Some of these are just plain common sense but nonetheless can be overlooked when your mind is focused on more romantic thoughts.

Some Myths About Meeting People From The Net

"You hear in the news all the time about nutcases and pervs and stalkers harming people they meet off the net."
No doubt about it... there have been victims who have been harmed and even murdered by someone they met from the Internet, male and female.  But step back and look at the entire picture.  It's no where near as frequent as the sensational media wants to make it.  Your risk is no greater than meeting someone at a bar or church social and deciding to go out with them later.  Also, much of the so-called net nastyness being reported on the news are pedophiles luring kids and/or the police trying to sting a pedophile into committing the crime.  And even at that the risk to children is far greater in real life with pedophiles luring kids into strange cars or simply abducting them off the streets or from their own bedrooms.

"People never represent who they really are so you never know who you are going to meet in person."
Well, if you fall for this one then you sort of asked for it.  If you do your due diligence as I've presented on this page... using your common sense... then your risk of this happening should be nearly non-existent.  This does not mean that a person may not be trying to con you for other reasons, like trying to grab your money through some scheme or falsely misrepresenting their marital status as those things can and do happen when meeting people in a bar or on the street.  What is described on this page is how to meet someone from the net safely by lowering the risk factor to a level similar to meeting someone in real life.
<>There is also one other thing to consider if you subscribe to this idea that you never know who you are going to meet no matter what they tell you in a chat room.  While there are many strange folks in the world it's really not likely that someone who describes themselves as a 110 pound blonde female from Des Moines is going to turn up meeting you as a 300 pound male taxi driver from Jersey.  No one gains anything by doing that.  Common sense would suggest that if someone tried that you would simply walk away.  So, while probable, it's truly not likely someone would go to all the bother to get you into a motel room and reveal their gender as being not what you expected and suffer the embarrassment and disappointment of your sudden departure, screaming and vomiting along the way.

"People can track me down and stalk me, or worse."
Well, depending how much you tell about yourself that's very true.  But the average person (or average hacker) has no access to your location other than maybe what's revealed in your DNS or ISP signature.  Everyone has that and it generally indicates where your ISP is located... sometimes just a city.. sometimes city/state.  But no one can track you to your home.  Quite obviously law enforcement authorities have access to your location if they need to get it but even at that they have no super-hacker access program.  They just send your ISP signature to your ISP and get your information off your account listing with them.  No one is tracing your phone or cable connection back to your home.  It's usually quite easy to see a person's ISP signature and sometimes that opens up a reason to chat with someone.  You can certainly use this as a reason not to entertain meeting someone.. the idea that if you do and you don't like the person that they can still stalk you... but there's smart ways around that as well.


First off there's three things you need to do before considering to meet... much like an espionage agent.

Assemble Intelligence
You're going to want to learn all you can about this person before you meet them AND they should show a desire to learn all about you as well.  More than just the old A/S/L  (age/sex/location) routine, although that's part of it. 

Learn about THEM...
Over a period of time learn to understand how the your chat partner types.. their typing habits, uses of punctuation.  Obviously you are going to be chatting about many things.  Learn about their life.. family.. even things like religion and politics... hobbies.  Listen to stories they tell... and over time listen if they repeat them the same way.  Don't be afraid to ask questions.. after all, you are interested in them.  Make sure the answers make sense and are consistant.  Are there any subjects they are avoiding?  If in doubt ask more questions.  Collect your data through routine chat and while you progress through the first two encounter levels below.  Communication between two people can be on many interpretive levels.  Email exchange represents a purely basic chat medium... like sending a postal letter (snail mail) to someone.  You can interpret a writing style but not like you can in real time chat.  Real time chat opens up more the nuances of conversational chat.  Influctions in grammar, use of punctuation, you can even interpret 'accents' or regional dialects.  People tend to reveal more about themselves.. moods at the moment, stress levels... to the perceptive reader much can be interpreted.  From all that real time input we can communicate beyond what the keyboard types... but waiting for someone that is able to interpret what their chat partner is saying.  Discover who your chat partner is in any way possible.... from moods to motivations.

Are they sincere about learning about YOU?
Obviously what makes a relationship a relationship at all are the common factors between two people and the level of sincerity they exchange.  The simple fact that you might be considering meeting this other person in real life might suggest that you feel a level of sincerity and depth in your relationship, whether it be that of simple friendship or a growing romance.  But understanding what your chat partner truly feels about you or toward you is all part of the process toward understanding if your chat partner is worth meeting.  While you are asking them those questions as suggested in the paragraph above make a mental note if they are asking the same questions of you.   Are the questions your chat partner may ask you more about depth of understanding or rather reciprocal patronizing?  Do they refer back to particular events or life routines you've mentioned,  suggesting a level of caring or compassion... or does it seem like they chat mostly about themselves?  Do they take a true interest in your job, family, homelife where they might ask about it occassionally?  When you chat with someone over a period of time then you get to detect moods.  This is natural as not everyone feels the same all of the time.  Does your chat partner respond or detect your moods or do they seem ambivilent?

In my case I have this website that pretty much tells all about me and if one is astute enough they can read between the lines to understand more about me as well.  If someone seems truly interested in me they will have the natural desire to read the entire site... then followup with me with more questions.  If my chat partners have websites I will visit them and read all I can about them as well.  But if someone claims to find me interesting and 'wants to get to know me better' yet hasn't read all of my site (especially the personal sections)  then that's a little yellow warning flag... either the person is scamming me for  erotic entertainment, is naturally self-centered, or could be someone with emotional issues with symptoms of being self-consumed. 

As a rule I always log my chats.. keeping a record.  Every chat client has this feature in some form.  You certainly don't have to reveal to the other party that you are 'recording' the chat because what difference does it make?  But you'd be surprised how many people think of that as some form of invasion of privacy or in the least a kind of 'stalking'.  But it's the only way to assimilate your data about the other person.  Always assume your chats are logged by the other party, but in the end, so what.  Even if they decide to share your chat log to the world all the world sees is your nick anyway... and trust me, the world could care less about your chat log anyway.

Evaluate The Intelligence Collected
This you can do as you perform the above intelligence gathering.  Your mind and instincts should always be questioning and making sense of the things your chat partner sends to your screen.  Are stories consistant?  Is family life consistant?  Do hobbies or political opinions or religious beliefs reflect something deeper?  The things to evaluate are more than just the nice things like remembering virtual flowers or virtual birthday cards on special occasions.  Only you can determine the possible romantic level that might keep you interested in your chat partner.  But things like sincerity and concern help to establish a demeanor.
But probably the single most important thing to determine about your chat partner is their identity.  I don't necessarily mean full name and address but you need to at least establish that they are representing themselves as advertised.  Are they the correct gender?  Swapping pics really doesn't assure anything (one girl I chatted with a while back would get around the initial gender identity confirmation thing by asking their chat partner the name of their pet, then she would write the pet's name on a paper.. then snap a pic of herself holding the paper from her webcam)

About pics...
Sharing pics is a natural process of net relationships even if between friends.  You should never feel awkward asking someone if they have a pic of themselves to share.  But the swapping of pics serves three purposes.  The first is that you and your chat partner can put a face to the typed text on the screen and get a better feeling for the other person.  The second is to allow for a deeper involvement with your partner, especially if you routinely swap pics of persons, places, and things important in your lives.  It's a greater sharing of your lifestyle with another person so that they can understand you better, and vice versa.
The third purpose is that of establishing a positive identity.  But there are caveats with this as well.  Most folks who chat on the net have at least one pic of themselves that they feel good in sharing with the world.  But sadly people can and do use 'fake' pics of themselves... usually finding a pic of another nameless person on the net then sending it around as a representation of themselves.  Anyone who has chatted on the net for any length of time has probably fallen victim to this little dishonesty.  I certainly have many times.  What I do as I get further into a chat relationship and if I am interested I will ask for more pics.  As digital cameras have become more available generally speaking many folks are happy to provide.  Some even snap a pic or two directly from their webcams.  But for me here are the indications that send up the little yellow caution flags...
Your partner only has one pic.  This is very possibly true but I always encourage my partner, if we seem truly interested in each other, to take some more pics or scan some in.  If you get the typical delaying excuses like, "My hard drive crashed and I lost them all." or, "My scanner broke and the only friend I know with a scanner lives in Timbuktu.", then you should be wary before you ever decide to meet someone.  The point is that while one pic can be faked it's generally unlikely that your chat partner would be prepared for sending multiple pics with the same faked face.  Regarding naked pics... well, I am always suspicious of those in establishing an identity, as pleasing as they might look.  Naked pics are everywhere on the net and it's relatively easy to find more than one with the same face.  I find much more valuable my chat partner sending me a pic of her with the pet cat followed by her washing the Toyota in the driveway a year ago.

Should you get to the point of engaging in phone chat that certainly helps in establishing gender.. but even that's not 100% fool proof.  You also need to establish credibility in the other pieces of information they have told you as well.  Again, are the stories consistant?  Is information about their occupation consistant?  Are there clues to verify their age?  Read the chat log again after each chat encounter... you'd be surprised the lines you missed reading as you were both typing to make a point at the same time.

Make Your Decison To Meet... Or Not
From all the gathered 'intelligence' and evaluation you have now come to the point of deciding to meet the other person or not.  In many cases listen to your gut instinct or sixth sense ( if you have one).  Two elements must be in place when you get to this stage... the first, you must have the desire to meet... and second, you must feel good about the person you desire to meet.  But the desire to meet must not take precedence over your objective evaluation of who you are meeting.  That can be easier said than done.  But in the end it's you who decides the level of risk you wish to take.   Remember though that your intelligence gathering and assessment never stops... even if you decide to meet.  Always look for signs as you both plan the event.


Fetish Meetings: Special Risks Need Special Consideration

While everything mentioned thus far is relative to all types of real life meetings there are some unique concerns regarding meeting someone for sex or for exploring fetish sex.  I think we can all admit that the inherent risk in any real life meeting falls primarliy to the woman.  Men are instinctually sexual predators and women are generally sexual submissives and by nature of other natural attributes they are also vulnerable physically and sometimes emotionally.  That is not to say that a given male can't be the same way, but it's the female who typically falls into this category. 

Whether you are meeting each other for a whips & chains bondage event or just 'simple' sex the risk of the unknown regarding your chat partner can pose a fair risk.  I think for the most part there's minimal risk of loosing your life (although in rare instances it has happened, usually the result of sex play gone bad) but certainly the risk can be well above the norm in having a disappointing to downright terrorizing sexual meeting that could result in some physical harm or abuse far beyond your expectations.  It's understandable that much of the sexual turn-on is, in fact, the risk in meeting a relative stranger simply for sex, but you don't want to be harmed in pursuit of that ultimate orgasm either.

Other than using the tips already given the only other common sense process in meeting someone for a sexual romp is to make sure you both have fully expressed yourselves to each other sexually.  Make sure you have done the best you can in assuring yourself that your partner does indeed have the same sexual interests you desire as well.  Perhaps engage in cyber-sex, phone sex, or chat room role play over time to make sure that there's some consistancy in your partner's 'play' habits.  If there's occassional deviations or subtle switching to a different theme then you may want to reconsider.  Remember, in meeting under these sexual conditions you are giving consent to being together sexually.  What may result after the fact that you didn't bargain for you may not have legal recourse... or certainly have a more difficult time in getting it.

 
Feature Segment - Defining Close Encounters

I tend to prefer to think of Internet contacts in general, like chat rooms and emails, and subsequent meetings,  much like those terms the space program uses when defining contacts with extraterrestrials (no, no metaphor there, sorry <grin>).  You will recall the classic Spielberg movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind.  Well, here's my Internet version of it.

Close Encounter of the First Kind -
This is basic chat.  You meet someone on line either in a chat room or via email.  In fact, since communication between two people can be on many interpretive levels email exchange represents a purely basic chat medium... like sending a postal letter (snail mail) to someone.  You can interpret a writing style but not like you can in real time chat.  Real time chat opens up more the nuances of conversational chat.  Influctions in grammar, use of punctuation, you can even interpret 'accents' or regional dialects.  People tend to reveal more about themselves.. moods at the moment, stress levels... to the perceptive reader much can be interpreted.  From all that real time input we can communicate beyond what the keyboard types.

Close Encounter of the Second Kind -
Phone calls.  You hear the other person's voice for the first time and things take on a far more personal meaning.  Admittedly your first few phone chats might be somewhat cumbersome and clumsy because shifting from written to voice communications can be strange, especially when you take away the relative 'safety' of anonymity.  But phone chat certainly brings forth another level of trust between two parties.  You could include in this close encounter the sharing of real addresses in order to send and receive physical items as well as provide a vehicle for expressing emotion through the sending of gifts for special occassions.

Close Encounter of the Third Kind -
The physical meeting.  You can't get any more personal than this.  In a way, this is less the last of three encounters and more the beginning of a new level in a relationship, be it friends or lovers. 


End of Feature Segment -

Just Where IS The Best Place To Meet?

The safest and most effective way to meet is usually what I call the two-stage meeting.  You first meet up in a public place (usually while it's still daylight) then decide from there where to go, be it an evening on the town or straight to the motel room.  That gives you a chance to 'eyeball' the person, exchange a few amenities, then decide if you should stay with them or leave.  Public places tend to be casual restaurants, like a local Denny's, a library, or museum.  Generally someplace with people around in the event you need to draw attention to yourself if your partner gets out of line.  But much of deciding whether to stay or not is your own gut feel.. drawing on all the elements we discussed here.

If you're a woman a good strategy is to park somewhere away from the windows of the restaurant or building you are meeting in, in order to reduce the risk of your partner getting your vehicle license number and discription.  Also, it's good to tell a friend in advance who you are meeting and where.  If that's too embarrassing then have a friend call you on your cell phone at a predetermined time, like 30 minutes, into your meeting.  You could even go so far as to set up a prearranged code or 'duress' word that tells who's calling if you are ok or in harm's way.  While the cell phone call might serve to interrupt your meeting slightly at least your partner is aware that someone else... is aware.  Before you hang up from your friend tell them you'll check back with them in a couple hours.. and make sure your meeting partner hear's it.

If the initial meeting turns sour and you decide not to continue it leave the public place first... make sure he doesn't follow you out the door and to your car.  Maybe make your cell phone call to a friend as you are leaving to let them know where you are headed.


Are You A Cyber-Liar?

We all know that Internet chat communities are great places to be ourselves or to be someone completely different; living out a fantasy of someone we might like to be that we might fear acting out in real life either because it's illegal or as simple as being because our nature doesn't condone it.  In most cases this kind of activity is harmless.. an acknowledged back-and-forth game of seduction, teasing, and enticement in an environment of anonymity that brings security to all parties.  After all, you can go as far as you want and there's always the off switch on your PC.

Now typically we can probably accept all that as life on the net and perhaps many of you even reading this has toyed with being an alter-ego in a chat room at one time or another.  But the caveat is to be wary of those who would carry this misrepresentation as a basis for meeting in real life.  While it's not likely someone who you have been chatting and getting to know for a number of months will get to the point of meeting you and you discover their gender is all wrong, the risk is still there.. especially when it comes to getting your feelings hurt when you discover the fraud just before you plan to meet. 

For example, on two different occassions I have been duped by heavyset women who misrepresented themselves to me through pics and chat references as being much slimmer and attractive.  While it's one thing to fantasize and play it's another thing altogether to willfully deceive to engage your emotional committment.  In both these cases the women were quite obviously emotionally stressed over their own image that they felt their only way to get attention was to develop a relationship using fake pics.  Now, while I would agree in the 'Shallow Hal' theory that people are far more than how they might look the tragedy with both these women is that over the months of our chatting they encouraged responses from me on their appearence as represented from those fake pics.  In my case, I do not hide my particular physical preference for slimmer women (I even mention it on my site).  So the sad part is that I was unknowingly part of feeding their self-image distress each time I expressed appreciation for their attractiveness or when we engaged in sexual chatter.  In both cases the women 'confessed' their true appearence when it became apparent that the relationship was getting to the point of a real life meeting. The sad part is when I ended up rejecting them it had little to do with their true heavy appearence but rather the fact that I had been an unknowing contributer to their suffering during our chats, and the fact the relationship thus far was being started on a lie and falsehood.  In these cases a phone call revealed little to their real appearence but in both instances the women were reluctant to provide more than the initial pics they had sent me... thus cauisng some slight wonderment.  So while I had my emotions torn with dissappointment it was limited only to the cyber-relationships and never made real-life.


Meeting for Sex: Safe or Otherwise

Okay, you've gotten to the point of meeting and you've decided that in your relationship that the possibility of sex when you meet is a desire, or in the least a valid consideration.  How do you handle it.. safely?
(There is really nothing here that is specific to Internet real-life meetings.  This is also relevent to relationships started in real life)

Let's presume for the moment that you've done all your homework as outlined above and that there is no question about meeting this person.  All your information 'ducks' are in order about this person and everything feels right.  But you are also thinking of having sex with this person.. after all, that's probably part of what brought you together on the net anyway.  Presumably you've already discussed this option with your cyber-partner.  This falls into the areas outlined above in developing dialog and getting enough information and feeling exchanged between the two of you so that you both are tuned into exactly what the other wants or expects from a real life meeting.  This two way communication should also include the dimension you wish to take regarding 'safe sex'.

We all pretty much accept that 'safe sex' can mean either pregnancy protection and/or protection from disease.  But only the two of you can decide for yourselves what risks you wish to take.  Obviously the whole thing comes down to trusting the other person on the information they give you.  But I think for most of us the real issue is about, do you use a condom between you or not.  Condomizing is the only sure way of avoiding any sexual risk but it also lacks in some very significant areas, like a loss of spontenaity as well as a significant loss of feeling to both partners.  You've both have chatted about this.  Perhaps your partner is on birth control or has had a vasectomy.  That would sure take care of the pregnancy protection part but you really only have your partner's word on that.  And what about disease?  How do you trust someone when they say they are disease-free (they may truly not know themselves, especially if they've been sexually active with random partners ).

Well, in real life relationships there's the obvious development and nurturing trust between two people over time.  Generally people learn about each other and can share their respective lives on multiple levels in real time and that helps to foster trust and some level of assurance that your partner is who they say they are regarding their sexual activities and partners and sexual practices.  Meeting for the first time from the Internet and deciding on having sex that first time does take a unique measure of risk because of the lack of real life relationship time that tends to foster trust.  In the end, even between two married people, engaging in unprotected sex has risk that's minimized soley on trust.  In the end only YOU can determine the amount of risk you wish to take.  That's why it is important to know anything and everything about your partner.. not only for your immediate physical safety but also for your medical health as well.

Here's a couple tips regrading the risks.  But remember, even in a marriage of total trust between two people there is still a personal risk to both parties in having unprotected sex.

- Did your partner really have a vasectomy?
One way to check is to physically inspect under each scrotum for the matching incision scars.  You can do this casually as being part of intimate touching.  BUT... while the scars may be telltale signs of a vasectomy it does not guarantee that your partner may not have gotten a vasectomy reversal.  Reversals are not all that common to be sure.. but they can be done.  Typical reasons for reversing might be... the guy had a recent divorce and he expects to marry again and desire children... or, in some cases, the emotional toll in having a vasectomy can affect sexual performance so it might be reversed to feel verile again and re-gain sexuality... or, it might be reversed for perceived medical reasons (I say 'preceived' because to date there is no known medical drawbacks to having a vasectomy).  The only sure way is to bring a microscope with you and have him masturbate onto a slide and you take a look-see.. presumming you are experienced enough to know what you are looking at.

-Does your partner take oral birth control?
Other than a blood test, which is not likely to be done in a motel room, there is NO way to know for sure if she is on the pill or not.. or even if she's been faithful taking the pills on time and as prescribed.  While there might be a natural desire on the part of a woman to control pregnancy for the obvious reasons this does not guarantee she is doing it correctly.

-Is there anyway to check for STD's with your partner?
Well, even if they come out (which I understand is in the works) a quickee motel blood/urine test for determining the presence of HIV there are still the other old nasty favorites that can still pop up here and there that are difficult to spot.  So the answer to the question is no, and even with technology coming to fruition it's not likely everything can be checked with one simple test.
What's interesting to note... that the accepted theory on the human desire for oral sex, or tongue-to-genital contact, is an instinctual impulse for determining disease or infection with our intended sexual partner.  For example, by using our senses of sight, taste, and smell we can 'measure up' our intended mate as being physiologically ready to procreate.  In other words, a male can determine if a willing female is 'clean' enough to receive his sperm... and a female might determine if a male is 'clean' enough to give her a child.  All this returns to the human instinct on the personal level to procreate (I discuss all this in greater detail another section on the site).
I guess what I am suggesting is that if you get to the point of being that close to your partner then use your common sense.. and common senses... when all else fails.  Sometimes lack of hygiene can suggest a shady sexual background.  But remember, many of the nastier diseases do not readily become apparent to the five senses.

In the end, the risks are all up to you to evaluate but with some thought you might be able to minimize them effectively.


Remember... the success of any real life meeting is the result of your desire to meet based on your evaluation of your chat partner.  Thousands of people do it each year... many even end up getting married.  It's okay to meet people from the net.. just do your homework first.



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